the trumpet/logic 8/stability problems
hi from vienna/austria!
i´m having some problems with system stability in connection with "the trumpet". first of all i have to say I TOTALLY LOVE IT- congratulation!.
BUT;-):
as i´m currently working on a major orchestra/big band arrangement the air gets thin. i got a new macpro 2.8Ghz, with 10GB RAM (so this is not the problem), an i´m using quite a lot VSL instruments (this could be the problem;-), an then i get those "memory is getting low" messages from kontakt 2 (the trumpet/ i use trumpet 1,2,3). and then (often) logic is freezing, and i got to reload everything.
what is wrong? should i upgrade to kontakt 3 or is it that logic can´t handle more than 4GB Ram?
please help!
2nd question:
how can i freeze my tracks, when i use 3 trumpets (in one kontakt 2?
thank you so much for your answer!!
greetings
christian frank
i´m having some problems with system stability in connection with "the trumpet". first of all i have to say I TOTALLY LOVE IT- congratulation!.
BUT;-):
as i´m currently working on a major orchestra/big band arrangement the air gets thin. i got a new macpro 2.8Ghz, with 10GB RAM (so this is not the problem), an i´m using quite a lot VSL instruments (this could be the problem;-), an then i get those "memory is getting low" messages from kontakt 2 (the trumpet/ i use trumpet 1,2,3). and then (often) logic is freezing, and i got to reload everything.
what is wrong? should i upgrade to kontakt 3 or is it that logic can´t handle more than 4GB Ram?
please help!
2nd question:
how can i freeze my tracks, when i use 3 trumpets (in one kontakt 2?
thank you so much for your answer!!
greetings
christian frank
Comments
glad you like The Trumpet :-)
Honestly speaking we never experienced such a problem, so it´s difficult for me to guess what could be the reason. We had some logic related problems on much older systems, but you have a really powerfull machine... I´m not a Logic expert at all, but did you check that so-called "live mode"? Practically it means that you have to deactivate the track on which the trumpet plugin is running - otherwise the CPU load caused by Logic is several times higher (!).
What wonders me is the message ""memory is getting low" - this has definitely nothing to do with The Trumpet, since this instruments needs about 50 MB...
I strongly suggest to contact Native Instruments, since they provide the support for the player used in The Trumpet. They should also have an overview of all the Logic - related problems.
As far as the freezing is concerned - this is suitable mostly for plugins with just one nki opened. Since it wouldn´t be reasonable to open 3 Kontakt2 instances, maybe you could stay within just one K2 (with 3 nkis) as it is now and simply bounce this track to audio. Yes, this is not so convenient, but quite usefull... :-)
Maybe the guys at NI will have some brilliant practical ideas.
If you have any further questions, please don´t hesitate to write an e-mail using our contact page.
Best
Peter
Logic 8 itself can only access 3 GB of RAM. All standard plug ins including Kontakt have to share these 3 GB of RAM.
EXS24 and VSL Ensemble provide possibilities to access more than 3 GB RAM. VSL Ensemble keeps the sample a separate process out of Logic.
What could held is to lower the DFD slider in your Kontakt instances.(main options/DFD)
The Default setting is 60 MB which enables the kontakt instances to stream 168 voices at a time. I assume it not necessary to reserve 60 MB for a few Trumpet instances.
The best way to increase performance and free RAM is to run the VSL instrument in Ensemble.
best
Frank
Thank you very much for these suggestions.
Giorgio
sorry peter, that i didn´t reply and say thank you very much for your answer. since the system update 10.5.3, and the logic update 8.0.2, everything is better concerning system stability.
but still sometimes i experience logic breakdowns. and I THINK it happens nearly always when there i use the sound of the muted trumpet (holding down the Bb in the left hand), then it´s just to much for the computer- running 2 vsl ensemble instances (including 18 VSL instruments),BFD2, ivory piano etc. at the same time. I´m using the freeze function where i can (or bouncing), to save RAM (although i have lots of it-14GB) but we all know logic can handle all of this.
it´s gonna be a "work in progress".
once again: "I love the trumpet", it´s just great!.
and once again sorry and many things to you paul for the answer, and of course to frank!
christian