Merry Christmas
Just received my copy of the tenor and wanted to offer this little thing as Christmas wishes to everybody, cheers
http://www.robertosoggetti.com/StilleNachtTen.mp3
http://www.robertosoggetti.com/StilleNachtTen.mp3
Comments
This is very encouraging for a first try.
The way you play it is really like sax player.
However, there something that disturb me and that make easily detect that it's a vsti and not a real sax.
It's like you don't play really legato.
Do you really overlap the notes ?
If not, try this and i think it will improve a lot the rendering of your nice version of Stille Nacht.
Try to add little vibrato time to time...
What controler do you use (keyboard, wind controler) ?
Regards
Rob
this is a great demo.
What i am missing is the power in the sound.. it all sound like its played real carefully/insecure.
i hear you are a great player, so it has to be the sax sound.
please do some more demos. i like your licks.
What i am missing is the power in the sound.. it all sound like its played real carefully/insecure.
i hear you are a great player, so it has to be the sax sound.
...
thank you bartp, in reality the Tenor has all the power you want
best
Rob
hi Perry, thank you!
But there's one doubtful place - at the end of theme (I mean fast arpeggios series). Of course I'm not real sax player and maybe I'm wrong, but this place (as it seems to me) disclose that sax is virtual. All the rest sounds perfectly IMHO.
May I ask you to put here your midi file please?
Thanks.
But there's one doubtful place - at the end of theme (I mean fast arpeggios series). Of course I'm not real sax player and maybe I'm wrong, but this place (as it seems to me) disclose that sax is virtual. All the rest sounds perfectly IMHO.
yes, you're right about this... and also the first acciaccatura sounds as the breath controller attack didn't exactly match the key attack... I'll have to fix it!
As for posting the midi, I absolutely will, not now though, because I'm going out. Later, this evening...
Thanks for your comment, Shramm
Rob
Giorgio
Keep them coming!
Del Carry
I've now rendered the piece at 88.200 as advised, and I think there's a noticeable gain in clarity... here's the mp3:
http://www.robertosoggetti.com/StilleNacht_MrT.mp3
and as requested here's the midi file:
http://www.robertosoggetti.com/StilleNacht_MrT.MID
my best
Rob
and as requested here's the midi file:
http://www.robertosoggetti.com/StilleNacht_MrT.MID
Thank you!
I am a musician who has played in every kind of band and orchestra. I read music. I write music.
I work as a professional studio musician.
My credentials are impressive.
Though, if I shared, I would probable scare off you little
shadow people.
I have a great ear with "near perfect pitch".
Those who are "nit-picking" the sax played on this "Christmas Gift" are a laugh to me.
Let's hear what you can do, eh?
The tune is beautiful. The playing is fantastic!!
I just don't understand the problem.
99.999% of the people who would listen to this track
would be just "flat-out" impressed.
I know I am.
Very sincerely,
Bill Kimes
http://www.arizonaprostudios.com
best wishes
Rob
One short and one long that i hope you will read until the end.
Sorry for everybody it's a long out of topic that will start after this but it has to be said to Mr Kimes.
Short One : Never forget that the little shadow people, as you say, are the same people that attend concerts and buy compact disc. It's those people that make possible that people playing music earn money and can live of their passion. Thanks to those people some can proudly call themselves "professional Musician".
On my side all the people that listen to the music recorded said it was very nice but found like me some little things to tell (details we should say)
To tell this one to Robb does not mean we don't like him and we laugh at him telling him : "look what you've done shame on you !" No, that's not this at all.
I did not see any offense in all the post written about his piece of music.
As Rob said "He just received his copy" and wanted to share with us his joy of playing this wonderful vsti.
Does it mean that nobody have the right to ask him some question or to give him some advices to make it perfect with some very little tweaking, even if maybe we would not be able to play as nice as him lively ?
I don't think so.
Do you believe that Stefano succeeded to play Mr Sax T as nice as now from the begining ? I don't think so.
For me, all the products from this dream team (i am thinking also about the Gofriller and Stradivarius) are no longer common vsti but "Musical Instrument" each one. Like all other Musical intrument you have to learn day after day how the instrument respond to all the differents controlers. Some people very gifted like Robberto can immediatly render a very nice piece of music just out of the box.
You want i tell you a secret ?
I think Rob is enough tall to defend himself ...
As he anwered me that he found his music nice like this you can notice that i did not reply to him !
If he's happy with it like this i do not have to tell anything. I don't assert to hold the ultimate truth.
I have my opinion, he has his own and we are not obliged to share the same. But despite of this we can have cordial relations and respect for each other. For some other topics may be we will be in phase.
Long one :
First of all i regret that you spit like a snake your poison on some of us (i think i was the one most aimed by your post) because until now this forum had a very good Atmosphere...
For me, a forum has many purposes :
To find some help from other users for technical issues
(like this the staff can be unloaded from this task and be more concentrated to work on the next product)
To share knowledge and find some advices from others (like artistic or technical advices)
All of this in a constructive and friendly way...
I am sorry to tell you this but your post is like the one we can see in computer's forum frequented by teenager ! their posts only spread Hatred without giving any argument to support their opinion.
You are throwing to our face a lot of things that have no relation with the topic !
Even if it does not belong to me to say this (but to the administrator) your post does not have place in this kind of friendly forum and most of all it unserves you aim (i don't know if this is an english verb)
What does it mean to be a "professional musician", professional photograph (any artistic activity) ?
It means that you earn money with it and that you can live with it.
What is the connection with having talent or to hold the Truth ? None
I know some people playing music during all the year as professional musician. What do they play ?
Popular music for Lower class wedding (nb : i don't have anything against lower class) during winter and during summer they play popular music for people in vacation in campsite. I have to precise that for the wedding they don't care if sometime they play bad notes because, as they said, "we don't care, most of the audiance is drunk".
You can not deny that they are professional musician !
For me it's not "the dream".
I prefer to play as a "non professional musician" but to have pleasure and to share it with some closed friends that really come to listen and appreciate my humble music.
Aside from being a "non professional musician" i am a "non professional photographer". Last jun i covered a wedding. I was asked to be the official photographer but as i did not know too much the people who invited me (friends of my wife i did not see since several years)
i just said i will take pictures but i will not be the official photographer. Believe it if you want but everybody that saw my pictures said mine were really better compared to the one of the "professional photographer" that, by the way, have charged them a lot for this. Were my pictures exceptionnals ? No i've just do it with my heart and succeeded to reveal the beauty that each personn carry inside of himself. I thinks it's called "the eye".
Do i consider myself as an artist photographer or a very good photographer ? Not at all, i just consider myself as a not bad photographer that really love human being when i hold a camera.
You can see that to be a professional or a non professional for an artistic activity as no connection with talent.
You know to read and to write music.
Good for you !
I also know to read and to write music but with a lot of difficulties cause i started playing when i was a child thanks to my, like you, great ear with "near perfect pitch" and that my parents did not have money to pay me a teacher.
When i started to work and to have money to be able to learn how to read music the worst was done. The bad habits are too much anchored inside of me so until i can manage without reading prefectly score i will continue. I admit that few years ago as i was reading (deciphering i will say) a nice score of Chick Corea (he wrote until the finger position to help) i would have spent very less time if i would have learned solfege as i was child. Does it make me a bad musician ? I hope no.
Would i be a better musician if i would be able to read perfectly a score ? i don't think so but for sure it will help me a lot sometime.
I am sure that for you a musician Have to be able to read and to write music.
Do you know that some great players (even very famous) does not know how to read a score (Sacrilege) ?
In the opposite, it's not because you know how to read and write music that you are a musician.
Two examples :
You know that for elementary school the teacher have to know how to read and write music. Are they musician ?
In my life i met a lot of people that spent so many years in musical school, knowing perfectly how to play music just by reading a score for the first time !
Whaou, very impressive !
Unfortunatly most of the time when i attended some party where there was a piano it was those people who were not able to play any music without score. And guess which guy succeeded to captivate all the attention of the girls ? the romentic guy who knows how to sing and knows to play a lot of songs without any score (sometime even not knowing how to read a score). The first one are very good Instrumentalists but certainly not Musician.
I don't want to confuse everybody !
I am not saying that all instrumentalists are not musician. I just say that there is no connection with reading/writting music, playing an instrument and beeing a musician.
But why are we talking about this ?
What is the connection with the piece of music of Robberto ?
A lot of people does not know to read/write music, does not know how to play any instrument (like my mother) but have a very good ear even better than some musician/instrumentalist.
When i test a new revolutionary vsti i often put some official demo of this virtual instrument between some piece of music of real instrument. It's very rareful that i can cheat my mother !!!
Why ?
Because, some non musician are great "music lover" and have a very impressive analytical ear enriched of decade of listening various music. They don't know the technical terms for a bend, a portamento and so on but they know to make the difference between two "professionnal players" thanks to little subtleties that they can ear even if they cannot put words on what they feel.
So it's not because i would not be able to play as nice as Robberto lively that i have to say that is perfect if it's not. Some other users shared some more simple piece of music but when people are listening to it even if they are not impressed (without knowing it's not a real instrument) they would not tell it's fake. May be they would say that the sax player does not have to much subtleties but not that it's not real.
When you listen to the very nice piece of music of Robberto it sound like it's a very good player who plays a sax but some very little details sounds fake.
Is it the fault of Robberto ?
May be, he just received it and even he is a great player he needs very few hours more to make it completly incredible. What would take few hours to Robberto would may be takes months for me or will need a lot of post editing.
Is it a limitation of the vsti or does it need few adjusment for some specific sax technics used by Robberto on his piece of music ? I do not know cause i do not have yet this wonderful instrument so the midi file is useless for me for the moment
Did robberto claimed that his piece of music was perfect out of the box ?
I don't think so.
At least i thanks him again for sharing this very nice improvisation.
You know what ?
When i listen to a user demo i don't look to his the ame not to be influenced. I don't care if the person is famous or not.
You know i think you need a little bit more humility.
Thanks to humility you can learn a lot from other people and make friends everywhere
For example, on this forum i deeply appreciated the relation i've built with Shramm with only very few posts. Thanks to him i 've discovered new musical horizon and i think i get one more friend.
If the reaction of Shramm would have been like your i think that nothing would have happened and that i would have lost something.
May be you belong to those people that consider that music is a science or an intellectual art.
Music is given to us, poor human being, by God to raise our soul to higer level of spirituality, of love, of what you want but only good feeling.
For me the music is one of the great evidence of God or existence of higher sîprit than us.
As i understand more the music with my feeling than with my brain i had some experiments that make me understand the deep meaning of Inspiration.
It's late in the night you are tired but you feel to play music. You lower the light almost to be in the dark and you put your fingers on your keyboard (it's more obvious for a polyphonic instrument) and you let them play some chords without looking to your hands and without any will of playing this chords more than this chords. Slowly some chords that you don't even know how to name (you know those chords with 8 or 9 notes that you can put 3 or 4 differents name) will appear and sometime some will connect with other one without braking the harmony. How come those chords appear as i have very small intellectual knowledge of the music ?
This is Inspiration.
As you know, i hope for you, "Inspiration" comes from the latin locution InSpiritus that we can not only translate by "Siprit inside of you" but by the "breath" or "Holy blow" because spiritus comes from the latin verbe "Spirare" and mean "holy blow" in greek.
When this happen to me i say to myself that music is really higher than us, poor human being and that we cannot pride ourself to be a great musician.
The great musicians are often humble and don't understand often why people find them and their music so extraordinary.
On this, i wish you a Merry christmas and hope that few words will reach your heart in a positive way.
Regards
Very impressive !
Thanks
Stefano
Roberto