88.2khz

RobRob
edited January 2009 in User demos
after having been scolded :) by Stefano Lucato for not using the ideal sample rate in my piece "good old times" I've remixed it at 88.2khz and I'm re-posting it as "Steps". Can you tell the difference in sound quality?



http://www.robertosoggetti.com/Steps88.2khz.mp3

Comments

  • :D

    Thanks Rob ! ;)



    Stefano
  • edited 6:02PM
    Hi Rob ;)



    I can not check right now if there is any differences because i am not working on my music room tonight so i don't have the pleasure to listen again to your wonderful "Setps" with good material :(



    Anyway i've noticed that the two files have the same size and the same sample rate 44.1 KHz !

    In the other way i am not convinced anyway that once compressed with mp3 there would be notable differences.



    For a fair test we should compare .wav files.



    Your opinion Stephano ?
  • valouz wrote: Anyway i've noticed that the two files have the same size and the same sample rate 44.1 KHz !

    I apologize for my bad English.

    Sorry !



    With SWT (Synchronous Wave Triggering) you can choose a SR of 44100 in the output audio file (It's not important), but for best audio quality it's important to set the audio card SR at 88200 (remember to match with the SR in the GUI) at least during export.

    There is a big difference in sound quality especially for mid hi notes.

    (See manual).



    Best :)



    Stefano
  • edited 6:02PM
    Go Roberto, Hurry up ;)

    We are all impatient to listen to the difference with this nice tune :)
  • valouz wrote: Go Roberto, Hurry up ;)

    We are all impatient to listen to the difference with this nice tune :)
    :?:

    I'dont undarstand...!!

    Valouz, you can to listen to it... Rob has already post :!:

    ;)



    Here's a comparison between 44.1KHz and 88.2 KHz .
  • edited 6:02PM
    I do not understand to

    Anyway i will see this tomorrow... i am exhausted



    Regards
  • edited 6:02PM
    I can definitely hear the top notes as sounding smoother. :)
  • edited 6:02PM
    Hello Stefano


    With SWT (Synchronous Wave Triggering) you can choose a SR of 44100 in the output audio file (It's not important)

    Ok



    What i know is that if my project (and sound card) are both set to 88 KHz and that i choose the same SR for export the resulting wave file size will be double (that sound normal)

    If i choose mp3 codec for export, Cubase will not propose me higher SR than 48 KHz (and may be it's normal, i did not read the mp3 codec technical specifications).

    So i told to myself that anyway the mp3 will not preserve the original quality sound.



    But if despite of this setting you tell me that there is an improvement of the sound i trust you Stefano :)



    The problem is that i caught a little cold and that i slept 4 to 5 hours per night all this week (giorgio knows why ;) ) so i am not convinced that i would be able to hear big difference at the present time...



    So we will see this later and anyway i will experiment this myself soon when i will get Mr Sax T :)
  • edited 6:02PM
    I think the only way to be sure if there is really a difference, is to measure with a frequency analyzer. Human ears do not all hear the same things, and loss of hearing in high frequencies does start quite at an relatively early age.
  • Hi Friends,

    You can hear in the comparison file (posted above) that in the 44.1Hz export file the sound is more like a "MiniFrullato", on the contrary in the 88.2 one is smooth and clean.

    If you use MrSaxT as Plugin (Cubase, Logic, Sonar, DigitalPerformer, ...) is enough set the audiocard at 88.2 during export (recommended to reload instrument everytime you change the SR).

    If you use MrSaxT as StandAlone (es. Live session) I recommend to set always 88.2Hz SR .



    Best



    Stefano
  • edited 6:02PM
    I don't know if this is a good thing. It's a pain to have to export it at 88.2khz. I'd much rather it sound good at 44.1.
  • edited 6:02PM
    Rob,

    Nice song , nice playing. The sound itself felt pinched to me. It sounded like a real sax that the player is blowing soft with to much pressure on the reed.

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