Brass Spatial/ER/Verb test, Harry Potter music.

PiercePierce
edited July 2013 in User demos
I was testing out a combination of VirtualSoundStage and 2CAudio's B2 reverb to get a good room sound for my SM brass, and I decided to quickly do a test with what Harry Potter music I remembered off the top of my head.



I would appreciate any comments, criticisms, and suggestions. Even if this is a spatial test, the comment can be about my playing of the VSTis.



Horn 1,2,3,4

Trumpet 1,2,3

Trombone 1,2

Bass Trombone



I'm also including the naked version for comparison.



EDIT: more info:



3 instances of B2. ER for horns, ER for trumpets&trombones, tail for everything. All are through sends.



Trumpets and trombones have close mics, ER reverb is set to 100% wet. Horns are pre-faded and volume knobs are turned all the way down, but ER wetness is set to 70%.



VirtualSoundStage is demo version, I used the Sample Modeling Brass presets they included.

Comments

  • PlougotPlougot
    edited 9:01AM
    Nice !

    I think your main problem is the same as everyone encounters with dry close samples : how to really wet the sound. Your placement is quite good, but you lack one more thing IMO : you need to alter the sound itself. You see, in a real hall, high frequencies have a tendancy to disappear quickly over lenght (that's why a far away thunder is only growling and have no trebles). You should try to remove some high frequencies on your brass section, it might darken the sound a little bit and help push them back in the stage.

    As for me, i use the TILT filters of SERTI and FORTI, from numerical sounds. Quite expensive, but useful.

    If you send me your midi file, i could play it with my own setup, we could compare.
  • PiercePierce
    edited 9:01AM
    Yes, thank you! This is exactly the kind of constructive response I was hoping for!



    I was thinking exactly the same thing, but whenever I use the EQ in Cubase, I always get dismal results.



    Here are the MIDI files, I just realized that 2nd trombone doesn't do anything in this, so there's no need to load the tenor trombone 2 patch.



    NOTE: I don't have an expression pedal, dynamic control is CC1 (modulation) rather than CC11 (expression). I switched the controls for all my instruments, so to work with these I think you'd have to as well. Sorry for the trouble!
  • PlougotPlougot
    edited 9:01AM
    Here's my test. I just injected your midi files in my setup without any tweaking.
  • PlougotPlougot
    edited 9:01AM
    And i just realized i forgot to change the tempo, so my example is much slower than yours.
  • GinharbringerGinharbringer
    edited 9:01AM
    I think perhaps that the expression values are probably to high to begin with. If you were to lower the expression values somewhat and turn up the volume to compensate, it just might feel a lot warmer.



    Plus it might help to attenuate the high freq (>8k) a little more?

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